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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Matt varnish Reply with quote

Anyone know of a really good acrylic
matt varnish , i have tried a few and they all still have a slight sheen , very frustrating and a complete waste of money , but you don't know untill you try, if it says matt on the tin you expect a matt finish Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here I find Dead Flat Varnish by Modern Masters to be quite flat, but the flatests I've found is Sher-Clear (waterborn acrylic clear coat) Industrial & Marine Coatings by Sherwin Williams, I imagine they ship international.
I found this one by chance when my local SW store was having a clearance sale. Even thou it says it's exterior grade it blisters under heavy rain (in case you want to know Wink. Lori Wilson from Golden Paints told me that flat varnishes in general aren't good for exteriors. Have you tried Golden Flat Varnish? that would be my third option (although Golden brand is on the top of my preferences)

p.s. I edited to add: I meant 'Matte Medium' from Golden, not Flat Varnish (keep in mind that a totally matte top coat will withhold dirt -if that might be a problem- unlike a slightly shinny to glossy top coat)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Elena , I will make inquiries about the sherwin williams product , failing that i will try the golden matt meduim , there proceed glazes are wonderful .
This is for finishing some of my samples as shiny varnish does'nt photograph very well .
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jeremy I have used a Matt finish on a lot of the fireplaces I used to do in a stone effect. This needed to be totally Flatt finish. I used to use a product called Guard (not the one made by Zinisser). Its water based and dries to a clear Matt finish but i can not remember who made it. I will try and find out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can Roy , that will be great !!
the more options the better.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy. Many years ago we used a a water based product to apply around light switch areas on walls we had papered. IT did not stain the paper and dried transparent, was wipeable and kept the area clean. For the life of me I cant remember the trade name. Sounds similar to what you were using on the fireplaces.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Brian it sounds like that one.I know we used the product when I was teaching at Walsall and it was specifically for wallpapers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check and see if you can find Ronan products in the UK. They have a flat varnish that I think, maybe, I used along time ago when I worked in the theatre. In film and theatre, you are always battling reflected light, so if you can find people/vendors that cater to that crowd, you may find the product of your dreams.
I think we also used to coat mirrors and shiny things with cheap hairspray to dull them, that would be a reversible coating - I'd hate to see you permanently dull your beautiful samples. But look for cheap, stinky, old lady hairspray in an old fashioned spray can, the new fancy sprays from the salon have chemicals in them to make your hair shiny.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOOOOO!!! Great idea Elan!! Hairspray!!! Then you can wipe it off!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

elan wrote:
Check and see if you can find Ronan products in the UK. They have a flat varnish that I think, maybe, I used along time ago when I worked in the theatre. In film and theatre, you are always battling reflected light, so if you can find people/vendors that cater to that crowd, you may find the product of your dreams.
I think we also used to coat mirrors and shiny things with cheap hairspray to dull them, that would be a reversible coating - I'd hate to see you permanently dull your beautiful samples. But look for cheap, stinky, old lady hairspray in an old fashioned spray can, the new fancy sprays from the salon have chemicals in them to make your hair shiny.


Thanks elan ,wow what a great job , that must have been such good fun Smile i remember the smelly old hair spray Laughing I'll have to ask my mum if she still has some Laughing ,i have used Ronan paints will have to look into that . i can remember many years ago getting some powder earth colours from a company called Brodie & Middleton (theatrical suppliers ) i think the company still exists , might be worth a phone call . can you tell me a little more about your theatre work it must have been so interesting Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That stuff I mentioned in earlier post was called Fend. it went on milky then cleared. Name just came to me out of the blue lol a minute ago.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this is a lighting issue, and not a paint problem at all.

Look at it this way: all the great museums photograph their oil paintings, and don't spray hair products on the Rembrandts.

Maybe you need a lighting diffuser, or something along those lines.

http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Minute-Light-Diffuser/

http://www.ferventfoodie.com/2012/01/10/photography-light-diy-diffuser-on-the-cheap/

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