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julie

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 109 Location: northern virginia-washington dc metropolitan area
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Latex Glazes |
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I am wondering a very basic question---what latex glazes do you all use and prefer??
I haven't done much glazing in a long while and must admit, when I do I still use Ben Moore's Glaze, antiquated -I know. I have a project in the distant future where we will be doing many glazed finishes, working fast and will have many hands. I know Ben Moore will not be with me on this project. Any advice, opinions I appreciate!!
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Fauxin Around

Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 451 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Julie, I love the new Proceeds by Golden glaze in the full bodied recipe. There is no need to add anything to it and it stays open forever, & dries to a photographic clarity. Tint it with the Proceeds by Golden Slow Drying Fluid Acrylics or UTC's. There are some other good glazes out there where you need to add other things to it to get the optimal open time, but they are proprietary products. Faux Effects does have a glaze called Aqua Creme that you can add extender to and get great results and you can tint that with either Faux Creme Colors (by FE) or UTC's. Were you looking for a glaze to add latex paint into? In that case the FE AquaGlaze is good but the Modern Masters Extender is even better. Just my two cents! _________________ Rhonda Canales
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lynne

Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 4970 Location: san francisco
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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most finishes i do, i just water down some latex or acrylic paint and use that with no glaze product. glaze is expensive, takes way too long to dry.
i only use glaze when i need a transparency i can't get otherwise.
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sass

Joined: 14 Mar 2007 Posts: 2770
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Like Rhonda I like the golden thinner recipe not the full bodied though but that its tintable with acrylic tints
but if you are asking latex glaze? then I am an aquaglaze fan that is mixed with latex semi gloss paint I use about half and half most people say they use 4 pts glaze to one part paint but I cant get enough color using like that |
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Shelley

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 2537 Location: beautiful No. Cal.

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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the last container of glaze I bought was Blue Pearl... we did a giant house and thats the glaze we used, had plenty of open time. _________________ Shelley Halpain
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lisascenic
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 2793 Location: San Francisco Bay Area -- East Bay

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just to clarify, you are actually asking about water-based glazes, right? I don't think that many (or any) are still made of latex, these days. _________________ *
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Jodi

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 6374 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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I like Golden's glaze also, but if I am doing a simple positive technique like ragging, I agree with Lynne on the watered down paint. _________________ When I die, I want to die like my Grandfather. He died in his sleep, not screaming like the rest of the passengers in his car.
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Elena

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 6283 Location: Murphy, NC

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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I add a little glaze to my watered down paint for color washes and positive techniques, but use a lot of water
I tried to make a sample of woodgraining with aquaglaze and a tiny little bit of aqua extender, and I had to throw it in the garbage 3 days later, it was simply not going to dry. So I did another mixing the glaze with water and worked fine. You have to see how humid or dry is where you're painting too...
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KathyFakesIt Moderator

Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 9286 Location: Vancouver, Canada

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Golden Proceed is my first choice and I use both the heavier viscosity and the lighter depending on the job at hand.
Next fave is Teturline, then Adicolor. _________________ Kathy
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strongv Moderator/Advisor

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2502 Location: austin texas

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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(Lisa LOL)
First, loose the term "Latex" especially when referring to glaze. It's likely to be Acrylic these days... and the terms actually mean something.
Water-based is fine too.
I use glaze a lot. It's expensive but I just LIKE the greasy feel. I do have to usually wait. It is indispensable for wall finishes.
I use it in painting... it gives a 'lens' effect.
I don't use it when I want opacity, super matteness or a broken shredded feel.
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julie

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 109 Location: northern virginia-washington dc metropolitan area
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: Latex Glazes |
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Thanks for all the posts!
When I say latex glaze, I mean water base glazes, the one thing I have enjoyed about the ben moore latex glaze is that I can put any thing in it, UCTs, dry pigments, in fact that is the type of water based glaze I am looking for now with long open times in a very hot climate.
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covergirlfaux

Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Los Angeles, CA

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Try the Modern Masters glaze. It tints up nicely and it stays open well...I'm in CA, hot and dry sop things tend to dry quickly here (especially in the summer). I've found this one works well for me. _________________ Shannon
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Tania Seabock

Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 2191 Location: San Francisco Bay area

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Hey Julie!!
I personally like to use Aquaglaze with latex paint. I use 80% Aquaglaze and 20% latex paint. then I roll on the glaze with a wiz roller and soften with cheese cloth or a mitt (or both). I have round this is the fastest way for me. It's not that expensive when you realize that less then 1 QUART of GLAZE (that's aquaglaze + latex) covers most rooms.
I don't like the Proceed approach for the same reason I don't like the Faux Creme and colors approach. When I meet with a client I want to pull out my Ben Moore Fan deck and they pick a color from there. Designers usually use paint store fan decks too. I don't want to bother color matching with acrylics. With Ben Moore you have a million colors to choose from and it's easier to match fabrics to these then colors. That's just my humble opinion.
I pick a base color (in Satin) and then glaze another color over that (usually eggshell). The Aquaglaze will make your original paint dry one sheen matter then it was. So if you have a satin, it will turn it eggshell when it dries. I like to glaze eggshell over satin. The eggshell glaze will just be more eggshell. And I notice when you glaze over a satin base coat it will make your glaze stay open for longer.
I also use the latex paint and water technique alot. Especially for ragging.
I know you use alot of oil glazes (bad girl) and it's good to know you want to quit the oil.
About Ben Moore latex glaze...It has zero open time. But I have used it for a few techniques when I was going to do just a small area (wainscotting) and wanted it to dry quickly becasue I wanted to go back over it quickly with another coat/color. |
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KathyFakesIt Moderator

Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 9286 Location: Vancouver, Canada

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| strongv wrote: | (Lisa LOL)
First, loose the term "Latex"
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Firstly, I have used the term "latex" when referring to water based stuff, so you're not alone Julie.
Secondly, I'm sure Pat meant "lose" not "loose", but thank you for the education Pat. You are a fun, funny, smart gal and I really appreciate your helping us all to sound like we know what we're talking about out there!  _________________ Kathy
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LDeco

Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 494
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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So .... there you go Julie.
Let's see, we have Golden's Proceed glaze, AquaCreme, AquaGlaze, water, Blue Pearl, TexturLine, Adicolor, and Modern Masters.
You might be able to say 'different strokes for different folks'. Start trying them out. You'll find your favorite sooner or later.
By the way, any of the above (aside of that goofy water) are considered 'good' glazes. Along with Ben Moore, SW and Behr come to mind as examples of 'bad' glazes. |
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Elena

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 6283 Location: Murphy, NC

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| Totem glaze is good with long open time |
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LDeco

Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 494
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Elena,
I don't know why but your avatar reminds me of "The Godfather". |
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Elena

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 6283 Location: Murphy, NC

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| LDeco wrote: | Elena,
I don't know why but your avatar reminds me of "The Godfather". |
...really??  |
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Elena

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 6283 Location: Murphy, NC

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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...but Dick Blick sells Golden, but not Proceed, right?  |
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strongv Moderator/Advisor

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2502 Location: austin texas

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Lose.... loose...
Thanks for the correction... one more time when my sense of spelling let me down... |
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Fauxin Around

Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 451 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ding, ding, ding...You are correct Elena!!!
I love your dress! It brings out the hi-lite colors in your fur! _________________ Rhonda Canales
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LDeco

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes ... it's the dress. I think it was worn in the Sicilian Wedding scene.
Thank you Rhonda
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Elena

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 6283 Location: Murphy, NC

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: |
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OOOhhhh!! you mean I look like Apolonia!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! |
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sdbydv

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1082 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Geez, I NEVER would've thought of watered down paint. Duh!! Just tried a board, and it's great! I have a ceiling job to do, and I have no time to fool with mixing my Faux Effect colors to color match BM Lexington Gold, so I'm just going to water down the Lex Gold paint instead.
When I'm in a pinch and need to use paint, I've been using Behr glaze which, believe it or not, worked pretty good for me. Until recently. Now it seems to drag and dry real fast; wonder if they changed the formula. |
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sdbydv

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1082 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I just glazed a 15 x 15 ceiling in less than four hours, just using watered down paint. AWESOME!! It was so easy to manipulate, and came out so soft looking. Client LOVED it! I'm glad she wasn't around to see how little time it took. I felt a twinge of guilt, until one of the workers told me it just cost them over $3 million to build the house. Suddenly I'm not so guilty. Instead, I'm gonna take a few hundred bucks from the job and go buy some Toys for Tots. |
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