Faux Forum Forum Index Faux Forum Forum Index Faux Forum Forum Index

Faux Impressions - Sherwin Williams

ArtisphereOnline
Suggestions Needed for Furniture Restoration

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Faux Forum Forum Index -> Restoration
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Suggestions Needed for Furniture Restoration Reply with quote

Hi all, I have a furniture restoration project coming up. The client asked if I could do it. I said “Of course!” This will be my first restoration project, but I have faith in my research skills and my FF friends. I pick up the pieces in two weeks.

The projects are spot repairs, not major reworking. The furniture is not antique, but most certainly 1970’s or before. There are 3 bark textured chairs which need to have the wicker backs “freshened” so they look antiqued instead of grungy, and have worn sports repainted. A bamboo chair with scratches that needs repairing and a hole filled, and a screen in the dining room with dings.

Question one – does anyone have any basic restoration references they would recommend, either books or online?

I am assuming all products used should be oil based? I am most concerned with compatibility of the product I use with the original finish.

I’m envisioning the process to be pretty basic. Yes?:

    Sand
    Prime
    Paint
    Seal – with lacquer?


Much thanks!



 Description:
Bark chair back with worn spots
 Viewed:  1835 Time(s)

Bark-Chair.jpg



 Description:
Chair with scratchs and hold needing filling
 Viewed:  1836 Time(s)

Bamboo-Chair.jpg



 Description:
Screen with dings
 Viewed:  1836 Time(s)

Screen-Web.jpg



_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com


Last edited by Katie Fitz on Tue May 29, 2012 2:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
anita



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2738
Location: upstate New York

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did some wicker chairs that had the wrong color for the client. I used spray paint for the base color and it used up more paint than expected. I glazed with a F/E glaze and then spray varnished it. I purchased the spray paint at Lowe's and at Joann's Fabrics.

It has been a year and I have recently seen the chairs. They look like when I did them and that is good because they are the kitchen chairs used daily.

Anita
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
lynne



Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 4960
Location: san francisco

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Suggestions Needed for Furniture Restoration Reply with quote

Katie Fitz wrote:

Question one – does anyone have any basic restoration references they would recommend, either books or online?

might be too much info but this is a great book:
Furniture Restoration: Step-By-Step Tips and Techniques for Professional Results By Ina Brosseau Marx, Allen Marx
http://amzn.to/KanKN5


Katie Fitz wrote:

I am assuming all products used should be oil based? I am most concerned with compatibility of the product I use with the original finish.

Absolutely do not assume what medium was used without testing compatibilty. This could easily be pigmented shellac with a lot of wax on it. it could simply be stained and antiqued with wax or some kind of tinted varnish and not painted at all. Is it carved wood or carved gesso?

Katie Fitz wrote:
Sand
Prime
Paint
Seal – with varnish?



no, not necessarily. unless you are starting over. touch-ups done this way won't "match" so unless you are starting over try to use materials more like the original medium.
That said they look pretty messed up in these pictures.
Maybe you can convince them to just let you totally refinish these so they look more consistent?


as for the screen- that looks to be lacquered. If you can, get someone to help you with expertise in this type of thing to make a permanent repair. If they just want a quick touch up, try to touch it up in a way that is reversible. Otherwise you might end up with an angry client saying you devalued their piece.

_________________
.
.
.

http://www.ornamentalist.net
http://www.lynnerutter.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
paintchick



Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 779
Location: Canton, GA

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn's right, it's a lot easier to redo it than to 'touch up'. It looks a whole lot better.

Janie
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for comments, everybody.

Lynne, I knew I could count on you for a book reference. Thanks for coming through as always. I went ahead and ordered a copy. Should be here in a few days.

I’m not really assuming anything, which is why I’m asking questions and in research mode. The bark chairs are carved wood. They look grubbier in the photos than they actually are (except the wicker backs, which are gross). The areas I’ll be working on are where paint has been rubbed off down to white primer. From the research I’ve done, after cleanup, I should be okay with oil based primer on those spots, even if the chairs were lacquered and built up from there. The chairs really aren’t worth the price of completely redoing.

I also concluded that the screen is lacquered.

_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completed the first three stools in for my client's furniture repair project. She was very pleased with the outcome! Other chair and screen next.


 Description:
 Viewed:  1623 Time(s)

Composite.jpg



 Description:
 Viewed:  1623 Time(s)

10-Back-glaze.jpg



_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
shadowpainter



Joined: 22 Aug 2010
Posts: 202
Location: North Carolina
us.gif


PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work. The chair back really looks so much better - easy to see why your customer is happy.

Katie, was the repair work as straight forward as you thought it would be? It looks like you had more than just a few places to repair, if not, nice blend.

Susan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Susan,

The work was pretty straight-forward. The only problem was I did a light cleaning on the stool before starting work on it, and a lot more of the existing finish came off. It looks like these stools were never sealed with anything. So it ended up being a lot more work that I thought. I tinted a primer and used that as the base coat, glazed, then sealed with varnish. The repairs were very seamless.

If anyone is interested in the step-by-step photos, they're on FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.436652266368012.105306.175798479120060&type=3

I just finished the bamboo chair, but now I'm stuck on that screen. I've done some test repairs on the underneath, and none of the sealants, including several types of shellac, match the existing sheen. I beginning to think it's not sealed either, especially with the number of dings it has. My client is on vacation, so I need to chat with her about options before I go any further with repairs.

_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
cleta



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 3232
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
us.gif


PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katie, that chair back looks SO much better! Looking forward to seeing you at IDAL this year!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the final photos on the screen I was restoring and the bamboo chair. The chair came out fabulous and I had no problems with it. The photo is only of the worst of the damaged areas, although there was damage over most of the legs and arms.

The screen also turned out really well. I have to send out a HUGE thank you to Theresa!

When I did test patches on the bottom of the screen, nothing matched the existing sheen – it’s not shellac, varnish, or flat paint. I came up with a mixture of ½ paint and ½ varnish that matched pretty well. Much of the bottom of the screen was really chewed up with exposed white primer. I was able to repair this area fairy easily as it was solid black using the varnish/paint recipe. Before I started working on the image area, I did tests on index cards and thought the match was ok. The color was fine, but I couldn’t get the sheen to match and it stuck out like a sore thumb. I ran through tricks I thought I had and was freaking out. The more I feathered and tried to blend, the bigger the sore thumb got. I called Theresa. She did a wonderful job of talking me down from the ledge and helping me realized that I knew I had an option that was too shiny and an option that was too matt – find the right answer in between, which I subsequently did because she helped me see it. Thank you Theresa! Even though I have pulled out of big mistakes in the past, my mind simply froze this time. I am so appreciative to have people I can call on to help me see the way through. All the other repairs I did on the screen were spot on. Even my husband, who saw where all the chips were and looks at things with the eye of an artists’ spouse couldn’t see the repairs.

When I delivered the final chair and screen to my client today, she said “They look better than they did when they were new!” What a turn-around in feelings for me!



 Description:
Sore-thumb repair at tip of brush.
 Viewed:  1366 Time(s)

Sore-Thumb.jpg



 Description:
Repair at tip of brush after Theresa talked me down!
 Viewed:  1366 Time(s)

Good-Repair.jpg



 Description:
Restored screen back home.
 Viewed:  1366 Time(s)

Screen-Restored.jpg



_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More photos . . .


 Description:
Post-repair photo. The area to the right of the hinge had been chewed up pretty badly by the hinge.
 Viewed:  1365 Time(s)

Hinge-Repair.jpg



 Description:
Repair to bamboo chair.
 Viewed:  1365 Time(s)

Bamboo-Chair-Restored.jpg



_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
shadowpainter



Joined: 22 Aug 2010
Posts: 202
Location: North Carolina
us.gif


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you and Theresa came up with works so well - nicely repaired.

Susan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sonol'artista
Moderator/Advisor


Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Posts: 3322
Location: Texas
us.gif


PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awwwww...Katie! You didn't have to mention me. Embarassed We all need "fresh eyes" on a job some time or another. So glad it worked out and on time for client!

Theresa


You guys can always call me to talk about paint! I love it!

_________________
He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands, and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands, his head and his heart , is an artist. St Francis of Assisi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog Twitter
Mimi1



Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Posts: 446
Location: ma

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katie and Theresa it was nice meeting you both at IDAL.
mimi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sonol'artista
Moderator/Advisor


Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Posts: 3322
Location: Texas
us.gif


PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You too, Rima!!
_________________
He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands, and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands, his head and his heart , is an artist. St Francis of Assisi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog Twitter
marilyn



Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 744
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katie, nice to have a happy ending. Wish I could have seen you guys at IDAL, but couldn't make it this year. My client was in Paris and I was stuck home with installations.

That book that Lynne mentioned by the Marxes is excellent. Have you had a chance to take a peek?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Twitter
Katie Fitz



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Posts: 651
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
us.gif


PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mimi, you too!

Marilyn, yes I got “Furniture Restoration.” I’ve been driving around with it in my car so I can read a little bit whenever I have a few moments to kill. Lynne needs to get a kickback for all the books I’ve purchased on her recommendation. I did miss seeing you at IDAL. At least you couldn't go due to a client. Maybe we'll both make it next year!

_________________
Cheers,
Katie
www.afinefinish.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Facebook Blog
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Faux Forum Forum Index -> Restoration All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group