Having a crack at a Faux Oak Panel

[1st year apprentice]

I am encouraged to do the following after appreciating Jeremy’s thread on Oak panles. Ty Jeremy


Is going to attempt an oak panel procedure demonstrated to me by Sauna Crosby when he visited me in my house today? (Sounds good eh.)

I intend to order Proceed paints, as this is the tool kit I am going to build on.

Suans paints were. : -

Faux crème slow dry glaze
Metallic gold
Chestnut Brown or Italian sienna.
Earth Brown
Ultramine blue.

Any one advise the equivalent in the Proceed Product.

I am getting confused trying to work this out without purchasing the wrong products.

Thought I would post this here, as it may be helpful also to others.

This will be my second attempt at an Oak panel. First unassisted by someone directing me over my shoulder.

However, the above guidance I do require.

Brian

[1st year apprentice]

Sorry Sean mispelt your first name.

brian

[Jeremy]

Brian
I have always used an oil scumble when graining oak ,you need the panel to stay open as long as possible & if you are new to this even more so as you will be taking your time & thinking about the grain formation .

Its getting harder to buy now, but most Dulux decorator centres can still get it for you, if they do not have it in store. Ratcliffe's medium oak scumble comes in 250 ml or 500ml tins..!! This stuff goes along way so the 250ml wood be ample!

I'm sure the Faux crème slow dry glaze will work ok , sounds like an acrylic based product , simular to polyvine scumble glaze which i have been using for years , great for the quick drying advantages flogging a panel prior to doing a particular wood grain usually walnut mahogany & also for over graining or atleast thats what i use it for & also marbling , excellent products..

Jez

[Jeremy]

Also usefull to know , a really nice ground colour for this is BS 08 C35 , Dulux call it Bamboo i think if ordering this in Crown it is called Butterscotch..you can also lighten it or darken it as required ..
Jez

[marilyn]

Brian good luck with this project.

Wish I could advise about the proceed product equivalents, but I'm sure someone here will pipe up. I've used faux effects for graining and have used alkyd glazes too, but would love to know more about proceed line.

Please post pics as you go!

[matsdekor]

Hi Brian
If you use the proceed glace you will have all the time you need to form the Oak.
During the Salons I usually work with proceed glace mixed with fluid acrylics - you can also mix with dry pigment.
I made a thread quite a long time ago with "How to Oak" I think it's still
here - there you have pictures and step by step explanations which I think will be helpful.

Good luck

[1st year apprentice]

Thanks Jeremy I have some Ratcliffes scumble will prep a board, try and just use oil dedicated brushed, am presently building a tool kit , so will be their introduction, the cleaning tho a bit tiresome but neccessity demands.

thanks for the encouragement Marlyn

Mats nice to here it confirmed , on open time one of the reasons I chose procceed as my initial paint kit for what should be a practical year. did see your oak graing thread but am having difficulty finding it. Would be one to use for this attempt.

Brian

[KathyFakesIt]

Brian, I got your PM but I/m confused. You wanted to know about some equivilent products to something else,ut can you tell me specifically waht products you want to know about?

Generallyspeaaking, to do Oak graining, you're going to want Proceed Low Viscosity Glaze and several Slow drying Fluid acrylics, proably the following in some combo to suit your taste:

Burnt Umber
Raw Umber
Yellow Ochre
Ultra Marine Blue
Transparent Red iron Oxide
Maybe Diarylide Yellow
Van Dyke Brown

[1st year apprentice]

It was the equivelent in Proceed to those below.

Metallic gold
Chestnut Brown or Italian sienna.
Earth Brown
Ultramine blue.

I can see the ultra marine Blue on proceeds color chart but a bit confused on the rest.

the gold doesnt mater I can use any light gold for that base.

Brian

[KathyFakesIt]

Ok ,sorry, now I get what you need:

Faux crème slow dry glaze = Proceed low viscosity glaze

Slow Dry Fluid Acrylics
Metallic gold = Metallic Medium, Gold Base
Chestnut Brown or Italian sienna = Transparent Red Iron Oxide mixed with Diarylide yellow and a touch of Van Dyke Brown.
Earth Brown = Raw Umber with a touch of Yellow Ochre
Ultramine blue. = Ultramarine Blue

[1st year apprentice]

Fab Kathy such versatile paints. spot on advice, gets me over another hurdle and on into new adventure. mixing like I never thaught i would.

I think she got it
My god she got.

Brian.....

[1st year apprentice]

I think iwas right to say i was a bit confused, it was. you slved it now i must learn to use the proceed formula maker/ finder

Many many thanks things are dropping into place for me now.

Due you another peck

Brian

[1st year apprentice]

Found it Mats

The topic in bold below a startling display of a How To. a pleasure, a treasure, for anyone interested in Faux bois.

Thanks again mats.

Brian

"How To " Faux oak the fast way. Topic By Matsdekor.
Located in the graining marbling forum

[1st year apprentice]

will put a full spot for the end of this topic on this thread. will contune with Part 2 on a Edit available thread.

Many Many thanks to those above for help and encouragement.

I am presently base coating a prepared board I had and will do a progress in Part 2.

Thanks Peeps.

Brian

[Pat]

I am getting excited Brian! I am very much looking forward to your progress.

[KathyFakesIt]

you're so welcome Brian, and I intend to collect my pecks on the cheek when we meet in person some day!

[cleta]

Looking forward to seeing progress photos, Brian! Your enthusiasm is contagious.

[1st year apprentice]

Well back on the learning ladder. thread retuned to include Edit facilities.

Received delivery of my proceed starter kit. have a little practice with it.
do a drawing of my proposed grain layout, be a bit fictional as I do not know enugh.

Photoe my progress. Thanks for the encouragement.

Its Rabbie Burns day, of to a Burns dinner at neighbours shortly, the Hggis turnip and tattie platefull a we dram ,everyone reciting a burns Poem, entertaining, verry good laugh and a few burns songs good laugh and a annual tribute to a great man

Brian

[1st year apprentice]

Did a drawing and some notes, a bit fictional but will gain more appreciation of realistic as I compile examples.Fictional drawing. How do I improve ? amongst you are people that can direct me.
Indication of Knots i dont know where the grow . would love some advice on this.

COMMENT, CRITIQUE, on above welcomed. plenty Views no comments.


Proceed Paint arrived Wrights of UK way over the top on packaging.

Prparing another couple of boards today, maybe try to grai also.

Survived the Burns night had great time.

Brian

[1st year apprentice]

Progress Slow. Working in the house renovating,now clearing up, now clear the workshop

The pictures
1/ the view from the work shop window

2@3 thr view from the landing and the back of the workshop.

Must post a photore of a tidy workshop My H/S demands it.
.

Will try to put on the Veiw from the window of the workshop. did it . getting the hang of this resizing. Learning all the time., but graining a slow proccess.

Plus watched on TV the film OK Coral Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. the great thing about being a Senior citizen the memory isnt so good. Twas Like watching it for the first time Great. Must now get the dishes washed( Machine )

Brian

[1st year apprentice]

The one on the right mine the other my 7yr old grandaughter, an experiment with tools by her, her first time intro to Faux Painting at each stage I held her hand at the top for a few inches, then explayed the effect acheived , left her to do as she liked.. she was most pleased.. which is my reward.She has grasped it and wants more on my return from spain in April. mine is just trying to work out media strenght and flow with new paints. and brush and tool handling.

( This was done on friday afternoon, which is a Grandchildren Day in our house afternoon 2.30pp and dinner, picked up at 7Pm, two of them 7 and 8, girl and boy, gran and grandad. always wonderfull.

Was also a cardboard box and tube day for this month, which I collect for them, do what they like with them, so brings out there imagination. must post some photoes some time, may be Faux thinking by them but allways amazing to me and Terry my wife.)

Sorry about photo does not give a chance to do a critique. Must improve my presentations.

Still got to varnish the Board. and have now varnished two coatst will post.


Brian

[Jeremy]

Great to see Brian definitely looks like wood grain , keep practicing your drawings of grain formation , you will find with more & more practice you will develope your own style of doing things ...good job

[Ron Francis]

Yes, I would have thought that they were both bits of timber had I not known better.

[sonol'artista]

This is wonderful! You have studied well and produced a very eye fooling piece of wood graining. Practice will only make you better.


Theresa

[patty_artist]

Looks great Brian. Thanks for sharing them. I would love to see some of your grandchildrens work as well! I still have pictures my daughter drew when she was young.